{"id":26,"date":"2008-02-20T11:51:25","date_gmt":"2008-02-20T15:51:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.yitoons.com\/yiblog\/?p=26"},"modified":"2011-09-15T14:39:11","modified_gmt":"2011-09-15T18:39:11","slug":"manyul_ims_blog_and_junzi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.yitoons.com\/yiblog\/2008\/02\/20\/manyul_ims_blog_and_junzi\/","title":{"rendered":"Manyul Im\u2019s Blog and Junzi"},"content":{"rendered":"

I found this interesting blog, by Manyul Im, while reading Sam Crane’s<\/a> blog. Then I found a nice discussion about the concept of “Junzi”. Below is my own comment to the thread. (more as a record of my wandering brain droppings than for its actual usefulness…)<\/p>\n

Gentlemen Prefer Bronze \u00ab Manyul Im\u2019s Chinese Philosophy Blog<\/a> <\/p>\n

Hi,
\nI found this site by pure coincidence and being mentioned in Sam Crane\u2019s blog.
\nRegarding this particular \u2018junzi\u2019 discussion, I\u2019m very surprised that no mention whatsoever has been made regarding such concept, and it its numerous appearances, in the text of the Yijing. This is a subject of innumerable discussions regarding the proper translation of the term among serious Yixue students. I believe Richard Wilhelm, in his translation of the classic, spoiled our collective Western mindset by translating it as \u201cSuperior Man\u201d. A more contemporary translation among Yixue students gears towards the consensus of \u201cJun1 zi3\u2033 meaning \u201cnoble one\u201d and\/or \u201cyoung noble,\u201d both of these carrying its own interpretation depending on the context of the hexagram, one being used as an adjective and the other as a noun. Of course, we thread on thin ice when trying to properly translate a term with a very ancient conceptual use. It isn\u2019t as simple as picking up a dictionary and looking for the characters\u2019 meaning. We must try to discern its original contextual meaning, going back more than 2500 years.
\nIn the overall text of the Yijing (as opposed to the bare Zhouyi) somebody recently made an interesting observation and pointed to an otherwise obvious distinction\u2013and thus hard to notice\u2013between the term appearing in the Yaoci of many hexagram lines and the term appearing in the Da Xiang:<\/p>\n

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The second is surely the confucian \u00abperson of noble character\u00bb, but the JunZi of which you\u2019re speaking is earlier and less perfect. (the one in the Yaoci; my note)
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All the best and I\u2019ll bookmark your site.
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Luis<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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